Ecommerce businesses worry about EU’s PPWR rules
12 posts across 6 communities in the last 60 days; 25% from r/ecommerce.
“Just more ways of fucking over small business [re: Anyone else freaked out about this new EU customs rule and deadline?]”
“Anyone else in US manufacturing dealing with the new EU PPWR requirements? We’re a US-based manufacturer and have started having PPWR requirements flowed down from one of our major customers. We’ve been working on this for over a month now and honestly haven’t made much progress…”
“Yeah you are absolutely right, that feels a bit contradictory, not having de minimis is actually a big issue for small businesses so I have no idea what they mean there, maybe just worded it wrong I dunno.”
Small ecommerce businesses are concerned about the potential impact of the EU's Product Packaging and Waste Responsibility (PPWR) regulations, specifically regarding a lack of de minimis exemptions. Users express confusion over how the rules will be implemented and their effect on smaller sellers.
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“Just more ways of fucking over small business [re: Anyone else freaked out about this new EU customs rule and deadline?]”
Any links? Sounds non enforceable like GPSR [re: The latest EU demands]
“Hello, Does someone know how it looks with complying with PPWR in Czech for small business (<300kg cardboard a year) ? As of now there are new UE rules but does in reality someone will take one look at 50 packages a month ? I already did registration in Slovakia and on a way with Hungary since those are more strict, but realistically has anyone ever heard of someone paying a fine or having problems with waste management as e-commerce (in other country than your own) ? submitted by”
“Go read it youeself: article 15 is the best jumping-off point for the relevant Information https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A52026PC0681 submitted by /u/SpicyBread_ [link] [comments]”
“If this post gets taken down I understand but I thought it had enough relevance. submitted by /u/MourningLamprey [link] [comments]”
“That is not correct; the information must be in the footer, and a link to the information is sufficient. When clicking the link, either the official image or text must be displayed, possibly both. We added this feature to our own theme today, called Valortheme, which you can find by searching on Google.”
“I couldn’t find any information that it has to be shown at checkout. The most important thing is that it’s ”provided in a prominent manner in an online enviroment” . That quote is from the European Commision Practical guidelines for sellers and producers document on page 16. It lists examples on where to showcase it, checkout is just one of the possible places.”
“Anyone else in US manufacturing dealing with the new EU PPWR requirements? We’re a US-based manufacturer and have started having PPWR requirements flowed down from one of our major customers. We’ve been working on this for over a month now and honestly haven’t made much progress with our packaging suppliers. The biggest issue isn’t necessarily whether the packaging is compliant, it’s getting anyone to actually provide the documentation to prove it. Most of our suppliers will either give us a gen”
“If so, are you paying the fees or just ignoring them? submitted by /u/MassiveBastard [link] [comments]”
“Today etsy required that you upload all your registration numbers for each country to continue to sell to those countries”
“Yes exactly this does not label the playing ground for small businesses 😕 I mean it's already a struggle to compete against big companies as the supply chain, logistics and everything to be honest is build around volumes. And this poorly thought regulation just adds massive burden to small businesses.”
“I personally know several businesses who shut down their exports and let staff go as a result. This is absolutely the correct decision, yet a kick in the teeth to those that followed the law and closed a department, only for their competition to keep exporting and hoping common sense would prevail”
“But does it matter what the EC says? At the moment each country in the EU is doing their own thing and we have to cross the palms of each in-country middleman separately. So the EC may delay their initiative and produce exemptions but unless each member state follows suit the situation doesn’t change. We still have to pay Belgium and Ireland and France and Germany etc etc etc separately and since the EC have delayed things the packaging and labelling requirements remain unharmonised and ridiculo”
“I would also like to add that most of the small companies actually genuinely care about sustainability and make more sustainable choices and it also helps us attract customers, its the big corporations that are the culprits. I mean why would you pack something that fits in a small box in a big box?”
“This is only for businesses already based within the EU. Everywhere else will still be blocked, so a lot of EU small businesses will still struggle to obtain imports from other small businesses abroad. It also only suspends the most expensive requirement of authorized rep, not the rest of the regulatory burden x27. For micros, it might not be worth 2 hours of their time annually x27 to do every country, even if it's just an online report form and under 30 EUR in total fees. Lets say you sell”
“Yeah I am more than happy to pay my part, just add an extra fee per package if needed, but in earth would I have to pay an annual fee to some private third party company appointed by them? It's exactly as you say, this legislation was all about making 🤑”
“It's such a sad story, stifiling innovation, entrepreneurship and against the reason EU exists - the glorious single open market.”
“In a way, but more accurately no, not at all. Some countries have minimum thresholds but you still need to do the bullshit of registering and appointing a rep. That takes time and money. Idiots the lot of them.”
“It's an appallingly poorly thought through directive which affects the smallest brands far more seriously than larger brands. I think the EU commission thought small brands would just suck it up like we did GSPR, but when your talking about having to spend a couple of hundred euros for an authorised representative (in addition to your GSPR representative) every one of the 27 EU countries BEFORE you even have any orders from those countries, EPR makes shipping directly to the EU unsustainable”
“That quote makes it seem like there's already some exemptions in place for small businesses. We probably shouldn't take a comment from the European Commission on an Instagram post (and not even their own post) as being 100% accurate though since there's no knowing who wrote it.”
“Yeah you are absolutely right, that feels a bit contradictory, not having de minimis is actually a big issue for small businesses so I have no idea what they mean there, maybe just worded it wrong I dunno.”
“Posting this here as well (originally posted in r/ecommerce ), as I can't crosspost and thought it would be super relevant for this community too. Saw a recent comment on Insta directly from the European Commission addressing the nightmare cross-border packaging rules (PPWR) for small sellers. "We hear this concern, especially from very small businesses selling across borders. The PPWR includes exemptions and simplified requirements for smaller businesses. Also, we've proposed suspe”
“Saw a recent comment on Insta directly from the European Commission addressing the nightmare cross-border packaging rules (PPWR) for small sellers. "We hear this concern, especially from very small businesses selling across borders. The PPWR includes exemptions and simplified requirements for smaller businesses. Also, we've proposed suspending the authorised representative requirement until 2035 while a more proportionate solution will be developed." Suspending the authorised repre”