Amazon Flex Bots Take the Good Routes First
Multiple posts highlight frustrations among Amazon Flex drivers, including concerns about route quality, inconsistent pay, missing packages, and the use of bots. Drivers express dissatisfaction with the current system and its impact on their earnings and workload.
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“First stop yesterday was 45 miles away and the whole route was 115 miles. Base pay 😡 submitted by /u/LazyEmergency [link] [comments]”
“After my 5th stop the Flex GPS wanted to send me 10 miles out instead of just continuing with the stops that were literally in the same area. Am I too dumb dumb to understand the logic behind this? submitted by /u/Taylorenokson [link] [comments]”
“Amazon Flex drivers: What would fair pay actually look like? Amazon advertises around $18–$25/hour, but that’s before paying for your own gas, maintenance, tires, insurance, and depreciation. If drivers were compensated fairly, it would make more sense to separate labor from vehicle costs: * Labor: around $24/hour * Vehicle reimbursement: 72.5¢ per mile (the current IRS business mileage rate) Using that formula, many 3.5-hour routes would pay roughly $125–$160, not $63–$77. I’m curious what othe”
“What are the base pay for 2-5 hr routes? I am only 3 months into Amazon flex submitted by /u/MackDaOne93 [link] [comments]”
“I’m a new Flex driver. I saw on a DSP post, that they give drivers “Nursery Routes” for their first shifts, and I wondered if we get easier routes at first? I ask, because I’ve done 3 now, and they were: 1st, 2 hour block: 20 packages, 20 stops, in the burbs, all to homes within sub divisions, but all clustered together. Finished 5 mins late because I numbered my packages wrong at the station. 2nd, 2 hour block: 3 packages, 3 stops, rural route with first stop 45 mins away. Finished early and wa”
“77 mile 2 hour route, 61 mile 1.5 hour route and a 38 mile 1 hour route. Earnings with the IRS milage deduction -$4.09, -$4.85 and -$1.74. On a different note I did get a no route for my first route (a 1 hour). ETA I should have noted those are round trip miles from the station and back to the station. submitted by /u/Serious_Camel7647 [link] [comments]”
“I see a lot of new drivers asking the same questions, so I’m curious what advice experienced drivers would give someone starting today. What’s something you learned the hard way? submitted by /u/Red_Rocks_Team [link] [comments]”
“Welcome to a new Amazon flex, on a Saturday afternoon, maxing out the number of packages and stops. Then customers wonder why their packages are left in the lobby and mail box area. Sooner or later they will give us 50+. Happy Saturday yall! submitted by /u/Traditional_Wheel162 [link] [comments]”
“Like how’s the pay and how often we see blocks ? I am planning to move to Vancouver and wanted to know this that would help me to start life there submitted by /u/gaukokura [link] [comments]”
“Amazon double booking routes with two drivers is their new way of getting around having to pay the 30 minute discharge. If you’ve seen this more comment below. twice now I’ve been discharged the station and support can see the route was assigned to another driver and not . just keep an eye out. submitted by /u/BarnacleAlarmed3050 [link] [comments]”
“has anyone figured out why 2 identical blocks have different pricing. Had a few 3 hr blocks in my area, same start time but different pay. submitted by /u/sp3cialK98 [link] [comments]”
“Flex is not my main job (thank god) and I typically do routes more frequently during certain seasons when my other job is less busy. Over the past two months life has been crazy and my job has also been really busy. I was working really consistently doing two or three blocks a week during April and May and could pretty much get a block whenever I wanted it at one of the two main stations that I have filtered. They weren’t always high paying… Sometimes I would have to take a base pay, but they we”
“Just got this in my Flex updates when picking up a 3 hour route today for 9.30am submitted by /u/Own-Math4191 [link] [comments]”
“I just started doing Amazon Flex about a week ago. Did my first 3 shifts no problem. My standing is currently great. I picked up shifts this week for Tuesday, Friday, and Saturday. All 3:30 to 6 PM. All 3 times my shifts were canceled the day of. On Tuesday it was an hour before. On Friday it was the morning of. For Saturday they canceled it around midnight. All 3 say I will still get paid with nothing going against my standing. I've read a few horror stories about people's account being”
“I got my first ever offer yesterday. I always keep on refreshing the app and nothing. I got to the warehouse house yesterday and it was FULL OF FLEX DRIVERS. TONS OF THEM. Are these drivers using bots to get the offers. I rarely get any! submitted by /u/ExclusivelyMDs [link] [comments]”
“Here we have a 31 minute ride from a staring location that takes at least 30 minutes to get to from the main freeway, for an amazing $10.17. Including $.69 bonus. Yay. submitted by /u/SoySauceChicken69 [link] [comments]”
“My third week doing Amazon Flex, and I think I'm done. For Whole Foods, I completed 10 orders. Seven of those routes had me driving around 100 miles for a 2-hour block. I only made $44 before tips, and most of the time there weren't any. For package deliveries, I've done seven routes, and three of them sent me way out into the middle of nowhere on rough, rocky roads full of bumps. Today was the last straw. My car literally went airborne for about two seconds after hitting something i”
“Hey everyone, I’m in Jacksonville, FL and I’m still fairly new to Flex. I’m trying to understand how things work outside of regular scheduled blocks, especially Instant Offers. Most of the time my regular offers page is empty, so I’m curious if there are other ways people are picking up routes besides just waiting for scheduled blocks to show up. I see the Instant Offer map in the app, but I’m not fully sure how useful it is in Jax or how drivers are supposed to use it. For drivers who work this”
“I do flex in Nashville TN, and they just dropped all the routes for Sunday, around 4:30 pm. It was the first time in our market I had seen rates drop way below $20/hr, before today they were holding steady around 20 (at least for me). But today they rolled out the $72 4 hr block and the $54 3 hr blocks. I won’t work for anything under $25/hr so I was just going to check back tomorrow. However I kept refreshing and by 4:50 rates had gone up significantly. I was able to catch a $104 4 hr, and more”
“My question is do you have to be in the vicinity receive work? I’ve been in since 6/6 and haven’t received any work. Never waited this long in any other gig work app. submitted by /u/Nice-Entry-4116 [link] [comments]”
“Hey everyone! I’m moving to Dallas in a few weeks and plan to keep driving for Flex. I’m hoping to get a "cheat sheet" from those of you familiar with the DFW market. Are there specific warehouses I should avoid due to nightmare routes or parking issues? I’m also curious about the typical range for route pay and if there are specific times of day where the blocks are actually worth taking. Any local tips on navigating the area or surviving the DFW traffic would be a huge help. Thanks i”
“Pretty sure the flex driver saw that i was an hour from the station and said fuck that 😅 I’m sure I’ll get it eventually submitted by /u/GuyFromSeattleWA [link] [comments]”
“These past three morning routes are high mileage and out in the country just my luck hoping tomorrow I get a good one 😭 submitted by /u/Relevant-Psychology8 [link] [comments]”
“On Tuesday, I canceled a block after I had already reached my 40-hour limit. Since I canceled it, are those 4 hours and 30 minutes available again, or am I mistaken? Today was supposed to be my reset day, so I thought my hours would refresh today. However, I still don’t see any offers, and I can’t even pick up a block using the 4.5 hours that I freed up by canceling that block. submitted by /u/KneeThen4588 [link] [comments]”
“I just opened my Amazon Flex app and saw $438 in Seattle ABWMP earnings adjustments added all at once. It looks like they applied a bunch of individual adjustments for previous deliveries instead of one lump sum. Did anyone else get this today? Any idea what time period this covers or why Amazon paid it all at once? Curious if this happened to everyone in Seattle or just some drivers. submitted by /u/Optik97 [link] [comments]”
“I'm a new driver on extra board, so i just get assigned routes that need filling. Ive been getting pretty bad routes ever since i started and it's frustrating to think im being taken advantage of, and maybe that I'm disliked so they put me on bad routes and give good ones to the ones they like. I guess my question would be do dispatchers give the bad routes to the people they dislike or is it more of a seniority thing? Ive always been a shy guy who struggles to keep or build relation”
“I usually stay local but I see these come up a lot and I'm wondering how much in tolls am I going to be paying each way. submitted by /u/AcanthocephalaFast11 [link] [comments]”
“This is like the 6th route in a row where the stop order makes absolutely zero sense, it’s either the start or the finish. Haven’t followed a route 1-48 in forever it feels like submitted by /u/True_Low_4280 [link] [comments]”
“So I did my 3:15 a.m. shift (3.5-hour route) and ended up with two extra packages. I finished my route and ended my block after delivering my last package. This is only my second week doing Amazon Flex. I brought the extra packages home because I didn't want to leave them in my car in case someone broke in. Do I just return them to the same station the next time I have a route? submitted by /u/backtroid447 [link] [comments]”
“did they onboard that many new drivers? i stopped doing flex for about a month, but up until the end of may it was easy to get a $114-$121 3.5hr route at 3-4am. now i'm trying to go back to work, and my mechanic couldn't fix the ac in my van, so i'd much rather work before the sun comes up. i've been checking offers around 2am for days and i've only seen one the whole time paying $89.50. most days there is nothing. if you're scheduling your entire week ahead on base pay,”
“Probably a dumb question but I was just curious if other areas have the same differences. I few weeks ago I did a couple of flex drives. Roughly 4 hour time a lot and pay was between $70-80. My wife drives with me and just do the packages. Ever since I see “Sub” listed instead of flex. Is there a difference? submitted by /u/CoachLaser2020 [link] [comments]”
“Can I choose what areas I would like to cover like east of Austin Greater area? Someone on indeed said that it's an immigrant app and gave them a 1 star. Also for other issues " Terrible pay outs , way too many deliveries, no accountability from company when they screw up, no compensation when they chance your block , blames drivers when customer put the wrong address in, metrics are unfair . Boxes too heavy to carry up stairs. No one speaks English here. Overall terrible " s”
“Makes sense bc I just got accepted to Amazon flex after like 3yrs wait lol never seen a payout more than 70 dollars on the app”
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“I was driving Flex...technically I still do. The 4.5 hour blocks were going for $106-$115. About 1 month ago I noticed a drastic change in the offer pay. That same block is now paying $86-$77. No way!! I drive a BMW SUV and Amazon has a habit of sending 35 minutes out to get to the first stop. The positive is that I was losing weight delivering consistently. AI says Amazon is paying less because people pick those runs as soon as they show up, showing desperation. In other words, they know we'”
“How often does this happen to y’all warehouse? I just got blessed today with a 4 hour and half block shift cancellation. It has been happening lately at my warehouse. submitted by /u/Lulu-tadu209 [link] [comments]”
“Why do I see some flex drivers delivering packages in the morning around 10/11am but I only see offers between 3pm-5pm. Rarely do I see an offer at 12:30pm. I wake up at 8am refreshing and refreshing the app submitted by /u/Jacket-Sudden [link] [comments]”
“Amazon flex used to be a good app and a consistent source of income, in the past. Now, they killed 5h routes to give us 3-3h30 shit blocks (THIS WAS 3h30) with 45-55 packages, stops 3-5mins apart and base pay. Plus, time to go to the station, to the first stop and come back for your house or second job. Especially here in my market, It’s not worth anymore, maybe if you live very close to the station. I drive an electric vehicle which makes it more profitable but the amount of miles driven lately”
“A couple of months ago, I had a few days off from my regular 7–3 W2 job and happened to get an Amazon Flex offer for 3:30 AM. It wasn’t a reserved offer or anything special,I just got lucky and grabbed it. Up until then, I had mostly been doing afternoon and evening routes (usually 4 PM and later), since they fit around my work schedule. After doing that first 3:30 AM route, I realized it was a completely different experience. No traffic. Cooler temperatures. Less stress driving. I was often fin”
“Works out to between (min amount, max time) $19.29-$39.33 (max amount, min time) hourly. If their time estimates are anything like Spark, then multiply time by 1.5 and favor the longer number. Try it out and report back.”
“lol I never had an issue getting paid on holidays or weekends I usually get paid 3-5 minutes after block ends or cashing out after money is in the balance on flex app , like I told the other guy I don’t know what’s going on with your cashout / instant pay but I always get my money either 3-5 minutes in flex debit card or it’s ready to cash out in 3-5 minutes after block ends”
“Lmao I only got paid 1 time like 12 minutes later but it’s always 3-5 minutes after block end time I don’t know what’s going on with your account”
“You got to have a debit card linked to account or Amazon flex debit card to cash out on weekends I do weekend routes all the time never had a problem cashing out or getting paid instantly”
“Yes but they charge .50 cents to cashout flex debit card is free and usually sends you the money 3-5 minutes after route block time ends”
“Just got the same email. Its BS. They want us taking the base pay routes so we dont get surge routes. I just got offers this morning though. Really ridiculous.”
“I wish I felt the driver supply shortage. Had a bit of downtime waiting on offers this week even, which isnt normal. Surges were essentially non-existent all week until late Saturday night/Sunday morning. Even this surge peaked at like 3 bucks. I signed up for Amazon flex in my area, but they got a waiting list apparently.”
“Anyone, is this worth the try? It comes up to $130 per day if it’s the full amount which is a mystery up to the last minute. And NOT knowing how many stops.😡 submitted by /u/waybrooke [link] [comments]”
“I was a platinum driver for a while and then I took a break for a couple weeks and I got demoted to Gold and now I’m getting THE WORST ORDERS, I’m getting nothing above $5 and my $5 Orders are 10+ minutes away… I don’t ever remember getting horrible orders like these I have been accepting every order even the ones that make me drive 15 minutes with no tip.. Idk what to do, I’m struggling so bad and I’m just getting dirt orders.. 🥺💔 ”
“Haven’t gotten paid for 5 blocks, I completed these blocks before may 23. I tried to do instant and button was missing so I had to choose the next day pay. Contacted them and even supervisors and they just keep telling me that their accounts show I did get paid? But doesn’t show in my bank account have not had problems before or after at all until these blocks. submitted by”
“Hey everyone, I’m a Flex driver in CA and I’m dealing with a frustrating situation that’s happened to me about five times now. I show up for my block, go to pick up my cart, and it’s not there. The station manager tells me the route was assigned to a different driver. I contact driver support, they acknowledge the issue and tell me I’ll be compensated — but the pay never comes. This has happened roughly five times now and I’m getting nowhere with r”
“Bots? Hardly. What I think is they hire too many damn drivers every few weeks and you’re competing against so many other drivers for the same blocks. Blame amazon.”
“Imagine paying to use a bot to get base pay blocks at 3:30 AM while gas is at records highs...”
“You cannot get a better route. It is always a spin of the roulette wheel every time you report for duty.”
