Graduates can't find jobs despite degrees and experience
24 posts across 9 communities in the last 30 days; 33% from r/recruitinghell.
“Yeah, that's why it's important to actually do the research if you do it. I can't speak for all job fields either, some are easier then others. The way I see it, is jobs also have unrealistic expectations and want a candidate to have the Moon and back just for liveable wages…”
“Why do you think that? I have an interesting insight beeing in technology, knowing what programming is and that not beeing my job. Just the hardware side. Most people, including electricians, could vibe code everything, but we would not know what to do, if something breaks. We…”
“I am sorry for you. I graduated in 2016 in tech so I had an easy ride for years. I couldn't imagine what it's like now for someone to get a job out of college. One thing I learned... Is that health is wealth... I lost everything... and started to say screw it all... I started…”
Several posters express frustration at being unable to secure entry-level positions despite possessing relevant education, experience, and skills. This includes IT graduates from overseas struggling to find work in Europe, experienced logistics professionals pivoting into healthcare facing rejection, and general disappointment with the job market's accessibility.
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“I'm not just talking about 10-20 years from now, it's already happening. As high school graduating class of 2030, there's a pretty big brain drain that I foresee will happen over the course of 2-3 years. I just don't see current freshmen/sophomores, in my high…”
“Thats what FTs are doing, get "better" grades and score jobs here, squeezing out the locals. So, if you don't do what you need to now, you will end up with a difficult path [re: I’m scared for the future]”
“As in random countries that aren't typically associated with tech hubs, which is basically most of the world. Every country in the world has universities all over the place - way more than you would think just based off of which university names you know, or which universities you've seen on the side of the road. Most universities have computer science or engineering programs. Where do those students end up working? Obviously not including people who move abroad for work. Where do they w”
“As someone with a computer science degree I'm almost certain the guy you're replying to doesn't have one. Everyone (even the nut jobs on LinkedIn gpt posting their wisdom about how engineers don't have the right grindset) knows that swe in the us is fucked, doubly so for new grads. We went from a 10 junior to 1 senior reality to a 40 senior for every junior reality in a very short period of time. There's a lot of companies that have started using director level positions usin”
“Many companies say skills matter more than degrees today. Based on your experience, what has helped you more in getting jobs and growing your career? submitted by /u/Consistent-Fig-4078 [link] [comments]”
“I went to pretty good universities. I have two degrees. However, I come from an ethnic minority and a low socioeconomic background. I have no family or network in the area I decided to major in. So I had to network once I discovered what networking was. I also started university at a very young age. I was so far behind all my peers. Studying economics at a decent university, I found many of my peers were well off and well connected. I wouldn’t realise how disadvantaged I was until a much later s”
“Bet the job you’re offering could be done by a high school graduate then. Also, you sound bigoted, dude. Come on, it’s 2026 [re: Microsoft suspended from H1-B program]”
“From my experience it’s helped me far more. Do you agree or disagree? submitted by /u/age_of_ultron33 [link] [comments]”
“Yeah, that's why it's important to actually do the research if you do it. I can't speak for all job fields either, some are easier then others. The way I see it, is jobs also have unrealistic expectations and want a candidate to have the Moon and back just for liveable wages. Lying is a way to even the playing field imo. Worse case scenario, you don't get the job and move on.”
“It's brought up fairly often that the bachelor's degree, and the fact that nearly everyone has one now (at least for Reddit demographics lmao) has devalued the degree as a whole. That's pretty well discussed as part of the elite overproduction conversation. But arguably, it's far worse in the graduate space, with the sheer number of professional degrees that shouldn't exist and certainly shouldn't cost what they do. I'm finishing undergrad with the aim of getting into”
“Why do you think that? I have an interesting insight beeing in technology, knowing what programming is and that not beeing my job. Just the hardware side. Most people, including electricians, could vibe code everything, but we would not know what to do, if something breaks. We would not know what to ask an AI to fix something specific. I know some things about C, C++ (education) and C# (my freetime doing unity gamemaking tutorials) and I do not know what makes good software. I have read some wor”
“I’m not trying to say that you guys are liars and full of shit. I’m set to graduate in 2030 and every time I open reddit I hope to just find AT LEAST one person being like hang in there or it’ll get better. And that makes me wonder if that unemployment rate is really 7% not 70% Anyway I hope it gets better for you guys and I included as I’m just starting to get into this because I didn’t start coding from the womb. submitted by /u/3pletsahur [link] [comments]”
It really doesn’t unless you are in certain firms in general nah
“Hello everyone, I'm from a small country in Europe that's not part of the EU and my job opportunities are very limited. I'm finishing masters in Computer Science and I decided to pursue cybersecurity. I don't have a lot of experience, I got one foundational certificate, completed 2 internships, although one was not related to CS because my Bachelor is Power Engineering. I luckily joined a startup company and they offered me to work for them but I have to wait 2 months or so. Unti”
“Did you guys benefit more from school or internship/work? submitted by /u/Salty_Brick_7869 [link] [comments]”
“I graduated with an Information Systems degree from a T100 university in the US. As an international student, I was hoping to find a job after graduation and eventually get sponsorship so I could stay in the US. Unfortunately, despite applying for jobs and trying to make it work, I wasn’t able to land a position that would allow me to stay. I know the job market has been difficult for a lot of Americans, but being an international student seems to add another layer of difficulty. You’re not only”
“Don't you have to be fluent in multiple languages for intelligence analyst stuff? I could've sworn I looked into that before and got discouraged when seeing the foreign language requirements”
“Because the Literati/Academia are too busy circlejerking to actually focus on preparing students for life. Academics are an odd lot and they lean VERY socialist to a point where they lose touch with how the world actually works right NOW and in the near future. Talk to nearly anyone in that circle and they're idealistic. "You should seek knowledge for KNOWLEDGE" and then they'll show you that meme with the science vs humanities thing. Instead of hiring economists and other SMEs”
“Then find a real job at 2-3 YoE to recoup the money, why or why not? submitted by /u/MaximumFlow7491 [link] [comments]”
“Look at all the kids who started college in 2021 to major in computer engineering to take advantage of the pandemic hiring boom for digital services. Those kids had been fed 18 years of propaganda about how that’s the way you make money and now junior dev positions are extinct.”
“No need to be the Dead Horse. This job market completely sucks entry level jobs, asking for 5 plus years of experience. How do you gain this experience then? Well, I'm gonna assure you little secret as a business person. If you have a storefront, use a pos,deliver on gig apps The many different skills that you have to possess in order to operate in these stores, even if it 'S.A. Etsy store will make you well equipped to be an account manager store manager, cashier, customer relations, cu”
“Getting a degree is not equal to developing a skill and developing a skill does not equal having a skill at a competitive level. You sound very simple...like people who go around saying "bless their hearts." hahaha”
“I am sorry for you. I graduated in 2016 in tech so I had an easy ride for years. I couldn't imagine what it's like now for someone to get a job out of college. One thing I learned... Is that health is wealth... I lost everything... and started to say screw it all... I started training everyday... cause I wanted something nobody could take from me. If you can't have wealth... Have health (yes even that costs some money)... But I lift hard and train and I have a body not many have. Yea”
“I think that's a large part of it. These commenters have only ever had other people just like them in their circle. They have no experience outside of being a student then early stage developer, nor any friends or acquaintances from other fields and domains.”
“Lots of fields also just have mandatory Masters or even Doctorate degrees for even entry level work. Of course there are lawyers and doctors, but like PTs usually need a graduate degree to get their first job. Also good luck doing any hard science with just a BS. I could see CS going this way with an MS being the new minimum bar.”
“There are very few outliers in tech, especially outside the US but also within it, that earn 100k+ Within the US, the median is $135k: https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/software-developers.htm Calling $100k an outlier in the US is beyond wrong.”
“This is such cope that I'm so tired of seeing. I'm not going to waste my time going over every reason why because if you did even a modicum of research into you'd see that it effectively does not fucking matter at all. Even if they make the class 5x harder (which they don't) then they curve it which makes it effectively the same. Ivy's matter for one, and one thing only. Networking. Even the prestige value is massively overblown. SAT scores predict post-early-career earnings”
“You don't have commercial experience - you're All-Academia. If you were coming out of Stanford, for example, things might be different, but outside of those types of ecosystems I'm not surprised you're struggling in this market.”
“im in the same boat, went to school for computer science and more and more competition started entering the field till i got squeezed out its the way it is, jobs exist to fulfill demand for labor if there is no demand in an area there are no jobs”
“I'm gen Z, mid-20s. I have about 5 years of working experience on various fields. I'm still the generation that was told to 'just learn well, learn a lot, as many things as you can, learn English, etc. and you will find a good job'. So I did. I love studying, so I'm constantly in education since I was a 1st grader, I have 2 degrees, a couple of vocational certificates, experience from different fields, I speak English - and none of them worths anything now. First, I felt rage”
“Problem is with the UK since Blair adopting a 50% uni rate the value of the degree has dropped cause there is so many coming out with a degree and cause of that what used to be a Bachelor's degree was the requirement they can now use masters or PhDs to think the crowd. I'm all for getting more to uni but 50% was too high s number and cause of that unis have now become a major economy driver”
“I'm seeing some delusional older folks claim that many recent American college grads who are struggling to land anything in this job market, especially those who studied CS, supposedly don't want to start from the lowest position and want 6 figure jobs fresh out of college. That couldn't be further from the truth because employers don't even want to give us jobs where we can start from the bottom and work our way up either. I'm convinced that this is just one of their ways of”
“It's definitely not the same as, say, 20+ years ago. I didn't have any issues getting jobs without a degree, and it never came up at any place I was at. I was able to get some temp jobs (field tech, desktop support type roles) with just having A+, Net+, and a few Microsoft certs at the time. I was then able to land a job at a major company, with just my experience, certs, and no degree. After well over a decade in this field, I went back to school to get a BS and MBA. Given how the marke”
“Why is society so hostile to people trying to get entry level jobs? submitted by /u/Safe_Artichoke3391 [link] [comments]”
“If you don’t have a degree but 5 YOE, many employers won’t care. And if you want to start getting YOE in small contracting projects and eventually move to better places and get better experience, it’s also possible. Not easy, but not completely impossible either.”
“For context, I am the first person in my family to even get a degree, so I am kind of learning how academia works on my own. I am from Italy, got my undergraduate degree there, but the Italian system doesn’t really give you many opportunities to do research, so I moved to Japan on a scholarship to get a research Master’s. I have volunteered and worked in conservation for years, presented at international conferences, and am currently working on my first manuscript, but still when applying to PhD”
“Because there are literally no jobs for juniors lol. I live in the Bay Area and any "entry level" role is asking for an absolutely unhinged list of requirements, often 2-3 years of experience already”
“I see people from all over the world complaining about the job market and how saturated it has become, especially in the field of computer science. Is it really true that there will be fewer job opportunities in this field in the future? Computer science used to be considered one of the easiest paths to working abroad and getting scholarships or internships. I’d like to hear about your experiences. What are you doing now, and how are you coping with the current situation? What kind of work do yo”
“Secondary education is worthless as alot of countries has better education than USA. Tertiary education is what you meant I think, aka college and university. Also, in terms of elite university, sure US has alot but it's conditionnal to investment and brain retention. If you lose your top talent forming student, you lose the prestige of top university too. And that's already happening, Canada already poached some recently. One other thing is prestige doesn't always equate quality. It”
“Someone help me understand. "Go to college!" I did. "Build a skillset with projects!!" I did. "Build experience with internships!!!" I did. "Get an entry level job!!!!" I tried. I get no interviews. "Relocate!!!!!" I'm willing. I apply country wide the best I can. No callbacks. "Get your resume looked at!!!!!!" I have. People's general sentiment is that it's about as good as it's gonna get right now. "Pivot out of y”
“My degree is worthless in the job market and I need an experience to break into another career no matter what it is, I don't live in the usa so no fast food chains that employ anyone , the job market sucks, I need money and I'm broke and the gap in my resume is widening for two years So I'm tired of been honest, how do.I lie effectively to guarantee the job /interview without been caught? submitted by /u/BreakfastDifferent29 [link] [comments]”
“i specifically said for new grads. In this market, employers only care about experience so that makes sense that experienced foreigners with us company experience would still be desired”
“Anyone who graduates from a university gets some kind of temporary visa to work in that country for a few years. It's to give an incentive for foreigners to come over and pay the higher price for university. I doubt it's going to work though, employers don't even hire new grad citizens with masters and the very first thing they ask is "are you a citizen"”
“You know they say we have a K shaped economy? We also have a K shaped employment system. Smart (degree or not) people are forced down and morons are lifted up. Lots of different reasons, mostly because they aren't a threat to upper management. Dumb enough to show up, smart enough to get the basics done. And they can't/won't ask for the bosses job.”
“It's the same in Eastern Europe. Though many who graduate in humanities end up working in HR.”
“Without getting into specifics I'll say I have a little over a decade of sales experience in logistics and a couple years concurrent in telecoms. I'm pivoting into healthcare as I pursued a degree in it and it's my passion and a lifelong goal of mine. Decide two months ago that my current industry isn't where I want to be, so I've been doing the usual networking and applying. Only thing is I'm getting nearly ZERO real traction here. I've juiced tf out of my resume, an”
“The job market is one of, if not the best pieces of evidence of this. Immediately after high school, we tell kids "go to college!!! Pick a decent major!!! Take out student loans!!!" During college we tell them to work on projects, to get internships, to build experience to be an attractive entry level candidate. People do that. I did. Majored in computer science. But upon graduating, they're stuck working retail or something along the lines of minimum wage because they can't en”
“As a fresh IT engineering graduate from a North African country with zero professional experience, what are my realistic chances of landing an entry level tech job in Europe or anywhere abroad?? I'm proficient in English and French language and I'm willing to assimilate to any country. Does GitHub + LinkedIn even matter at this point? submitted by /u/Rare-Adeptness8935 [link] [comments]”