International Wire Transfers Bleed Fees and Days
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“we pay like 40 contractors and affiliates outside the EU monthly, since spring the money go out thru INXY: our finance guy sends one fiat transfer to fund the batch, then each person picks what they receive, USDT or USDC (chill operationally but the month end close just eats sm…”
“We live in a world that has Venmo, Zelle, PayPal, etc. why are vendors still charging processing fees through their own company portals.”
“Hi everyone! I'm from mainland China, and I'm hoping someone with experience in international payments or Notion subscriptions can help me solve a frustrating problem. Recently, I purchased a promotional redemption code for the 3-month Notion Business trial offered through…”
Businesses, particularly those operating internationally or in high-risk industries like CBD, face significant challenges with payment processing. These challenges include high fees, transfer delays, limited control over cash flow, and difficulty finding reliable payment processors due to restrictions and potential account freezes. The lack of suitable payment options creates operational frustration and financial instability.
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“maybe im overthinking this but heading to guangzhou soon. Not talking about business payments, just normal spending. usually tap my card for everything so carrying a wallet of RMB feels weird. but dont wanna assume my cards works everywhere and get stuck. would you bring…”
“calling is a good shout in europe, they actually pick up and it is way faster than email. for 40m liquid i would just find a broker that handles high net worth international clients, they will know exactly what you need without the headache [re: Umbrella insurance for expats]”
“For me it was realizing I needed a proper business structure before accepting payments internationally. Built a SaaS, started getting interest from users in different countries, then realized my personal setup wasn’t designed for that. Nobody warns you about the gap between ‘technically legal’ and ‘actually set up properly for scale.’ Wish someone had told me to sort the legal foundation before the first dollar came in, not after. [re: What was the first business compliance task that caught you”
“Second this. It's very common and easy to use. Sending money to other people is basically Instant for most people in those countries. Having to use a third party app is unheard of, and would baffle people. Why the US doesn't have such things? My guess is because with ACH the bank holds onto your money for a business day or two, which allows them to earn interest on it. So it won't benefit them to get rid of that system. I know zelle is basically free, but Venmo does charge money to t”
“Malaysian here. I gotta say the market for us small and medium firms can be very competitive and sometimes not worth the hassle. Clients are very stingy with money so it can really fuck up your cash flow if you don't already have several "quality clients" in hand. Perhaps you could first try to find several SMEs or sole props for bookkeeping services? When me and my friend first started, we approached restaurants, hotel operators and clinics. Just try to approach those budget hotel”
“probably the tip adjustments clearing in batches, those always show up late on foreign transactions [re: My transactions have started to show up as smaller transactions?]”
“just a guess, but it may have something to do with the conversion rate. [re: My transactions have started to show up as smaller transactions?]”
“we pay like 40 contractors and affiliates outside the EU monthly, since spring the money go out thru INXY: our finance guy sends one fiat transfer to fund the batch, then each person picks what they receive, USDT or USDC (chill operationally but the month end close just eats sm time). Rn we book the fiat side keeping the payout report as backup, seems fine to me tho im not the one signing off on the accs lol. Anyone else running crypto payouts, how'd u handle it, did ur auditor ask for anyth”
“I think there is a plat form called unlimit.com they have the resources and license to operate in the EU aswell, I’d surely check them out [re: Which payment system should I use for my webstore?]”
“[Wise] ★★ 2/5 (v9.109) — I just started an account with Wise for paying International suppliers for goods and services. My experience so far has not been great. Account set up and linking my checking account to Wise to transfer funds is taking a long time. There is no status posted on Wise app which makes no sense to me. And it is not easy getting in touch with Wise customer service either. There is no phone number or chat option listed on Wise app. I am not sure I will use this service in the f”
“I'm looking into it as a possible option for a small online business, but I'd rather hear from people who've actually used it than rely on what's written on their website. Can you receive money from clients abroad without issues? Would love to hear about your experience, especially if you're a SaaS founder or freelancer. Hesab.com submitted by /u/Sabir_noori [link] [comments]”
“Hello, A UK company whose stocks I hold has been sold. The stocks are being cashed out by the UK broker which is holding my stocks. The broker charges £25 for non-UK bank wire transfers (ACH is not allowed). They also charge a 1.5% exchange rate fee to convert the currency. I was hoping to find a solution in which I could provide local UK banking account information to avoid the £25 fee, as well as one that is less expensive in the conversion. By my calculation, it would end up being close to $5”
“We live in a world that has Venmo, Zelle, PayPal, etc. why are vendors still charging processing fees through their own company portals. submitted by /u/sfitz0076 [link] [comments]”
“Thank you so much for taking the time to explain all of this! I really appreciate your advice. 🙏 I'm still a beginner when it comes to international payments, so I didn't realize there were so many factors involved, such as prepaid card restrictions, Stripe verification, and 3D Secure. I currently only have a regular ICBC UnionPay debit card, but I'm planning to look into applying for a Visa or Mastercard from a Chinese bank this weekend. I'll also remember your advice about can”
“Hi everyone! I'm from mainland China, and I'm hoping someone with experience in international payments or Notion subscriptions can help me solve a frustrating problem. Recently, I purchased a promotional redemption code for the 3-month Notion Business trial offered through LinkedIn Premium from a third-party seller for about $3.50. The code takes me to Notion's official redemption page, but I can't complete the activation because it requires a supported payment card. Here's m”
“Hey everyone, My friend needs to send $30,000 USD from the US to a family friend in Ireland. I want to find the safest and most cost-effective option. I bank with Wells Fargo, but I know traditional banks usually hide huge markups in their currency conversion rates. I'm looking at apps like Wise too, but I am a little nervous about security holds or transfer limits since it's a larger amount. Is it worth using Wise for a transfer this size, or should I just stick to a traditional bank wi”
“It's such a huge paperwork (KYC, etc) PITA for both you and the bank, that many banks will tell you it's impossible. Can't you get a VISA/Mastercard in your country with no-forign transaction fees or something? [re: Foreign national non resident trying to open a us bank account]”
“I am trying to price my digital product in different countries so that I can get customers there but I feel like I’m pricing too low because I don’t understand what people from these countries can afford. I can look at my competitors but they have bigger brand names so people will pay more for them. Any advice on pricing for other countries? I started it with India and have gotten a bunch of Indian clients. Indians love to learn new stuff. But the price seems low. submitted by /u/sum”
“For global selling, I'd look at three things besides the headline rate: the FX spread on payouts (often bigger than the processing fee if you're paid in USD and bank elsewhere), which local payment methods the processor supports in your top three markets (cards alone can leave a lot of EU and LatAm buyers stuck at checkout), and whether tax handling is included or sold as an add-on. A quick 12-month revenue estimate by country will show how many markets cross VAT registration thresholds,”
“Before comparing rates, check which side of the merchant-of-record line you're on. If you're the merchant, you own VAT registration in every country you sell into and pay a fee every time a customer disputes. If they are, you hand over a couple extra points per transaction and never open a tax form. The first one looks cheaper right up until your first bad month. [re: Who is your payment processor?]”
“Remitly can be great. I’ve even found western union to have the best rates for intl transfers at times. [re: Worked in the US temporarily, returned to my home country, and now I'm struggling to access my own money in my US bank account. What can I do?]”
“I think I just have a tough time knowing how long it takes me to do x amount of transactions. How much do you charge for that? [re: Pricing - GCs]”
“im buying an office and looking to switch from the current dr's cc processing company. Has anyone used Helcim? what do u guys use? thanks in advance submitted by /u/Dentalsnob3 [link] [comments]”
“you might want to look into unlimit since they handle all the global payment stuff for saas and ecommerce companies. they have a european emi license too so it feels pretty secure for international business. [re: Small business - Payment platforms]”
“Assuming this is B2B with decent sized orders, I would only release/ship inventory after receiving certified funds. Wires can't be reversed and don't bounce. ACH's can be reversed by the sender for 4-5 days - even longer if they claim there was fraud. They can also fail to settle for insufficient funds. [re: Returned ACH payment after shipping a $64k order, what do you release orders on?]”
“I'm trying to understand a problem inside Indian B2B businesses that people rarely discuss in detail: everything that happens after a customer places an order but before the money actually reaches the bank. 🏦 Consider a typical workflow: 📩 A customer places an order over WhatsApp or a phone call. 📦 Someone confirms stock, pricing, and delivery dates. 🚚 The team coordinates dispatch and handles changes. 🧾 An invoice is sent, sometimes with corrections or mismatches. ⏳ Payment becomes ove”
“A client in another country wants to pay you. A bank transfer takes three to five days, loses a few percent to fees and conversion, and sometimes gets stuck in compliance review. Payment platforms take their own cut and can freeze your balance.That is why more freelancers ask to be paid in stablecoins like USDT or USDC. The money arrives in minutes and costs from a few cents to a few dollars. But crypto payments have their own rules: choose the wrong network or skip a check, and the money can be”
“I don't know what is best. It depends on where you are. Revolut may be a good one for some. One issue with Wise is they are not a bank. Just a payment services provider. [re: Worked in the US temporarily, returned to my home country, and now I'm struggling to access my own money in my US bank account. What can I do?]”
“What about cross-border transfer, though? Are there better alternative than wise for transferring money internationally with no FTF in the US? [re: Wise.com Debit vs No FTF Credit Card, which one has a better conversion rate?]”
“I haven't had any issues, but even if they aren't great, what is the alternative? [re: Worked in the US temporarily, returned to my home country, and now I'm struggling to access my own money in my US bank account. What can I do?]”
“As an American living overseas, I primarily use Wise to send US money to local bank accounts. Also you generally need to use a vpn for most US banks. I recommend nordvpn, but there are probably other decent ones out there [re: Worked in the US temporarily, returned to my home country, and now I'm struggling to access my own money in my US bank account. What can I do?]”
“Sorry if I missed something; post was long and I skimmed it, but, I’d suggest you use Wise. You can easily add a USD checking account as a funding source and send money to be delivered to your Jamaican bank account. For Jamaica, Wise will use SWIFT to deliver the transfer and it may take a few days to arrive, but the fees are low. To your American bank, it will just be an ACH withdraw so it would seem to them like any normal, domestic transfer of funds. [re: Worked in the US temporarily, returne”
“Remitly is a deeply unserious company, they gave me an insane exchange rate and I had to speak to about 5 different agents to get a refund. Avoid at all costs [re: Remitly deceiving rates]”
“Just a simplificaton for determining how the foreign income flows. The specifics for us was a client working in the UAE, where employee vs contractor is kinda blurred and basically boils down to "were you exempt from Insurance against Job Loss or General Pension?". An expat that has exercised an exemption from ILOE and/or GPSSA is considered self-employed when calculating their 2555 and the income gets passed to Sch C. Expats that didn't claim the exemption are treated as employees”
“Hello, I’ll be receiving some USDC very soon, and would want to know what is THE most efficient and cheapest method to convert USDC and deposit it into my Canadian bank account. I’m not too knowledgeable about crypto, but want to avoid fees as much as possible. I don’t have an issue with withdrawal taking a few days to land into my bank. Thanks submitted by /u/ashishxo [link] [comments]”
“aint small aint small, 🥲 ECB banking licenses yes, it is good...but wondered more abt higher sums. I bet when abroad local exchanges charge a lot, that is why having ur own bank is better [re: What is your review on bunq? Is it worth using this neobank?]”
“I was surprised by this too. I sell iruka.sh on lemonsqueezy. In the end about 10% of amount without tax gets withheld. But I am not sure paddle is better. Now bank transfer fees as 1% for international too. [re: Paddle vs. Lemon Squeezy - Experiences?]”
“I’m interested to know how businesses are doing KYC on customers. Our place seems to do google searches and that’s it. Do businesses not have software to do this to get more in depth information instead of just google searches submitted by /u/Any_Tumbleweed9660 [link] [comments]”
“Try Wise. I've used it to pay a freelancer from Nigeria many times and it's consistently worked quite well. [re: A freelance hire insists that we use a service called Remitly, and now its constantly asking me for a lot of personal information? When upwork just lets me sign them off in a contract, with me not recalling having had to give up so much personal info. Why is Remitly asking for so much private info?]”
“[Wise] ★ 1/5 (v9.108) — Have been using wise for some time now. Lately the fees are out of control. Today was the last time I will be using this app. I sent my husband a small amount of money for something he needed. Wise took over half of it in fees plus what they charged me to send it. Last straw wise we are done”
“Yeah, I agree. For everyday small payments, even a small unpredictable fee can make the experience frustrating. Users shouldn’t have to check gas costs every time they want to make a simple payment. Higher fees make more sense for larger transactions where the cost is easier to justify [re: Is DeFi Moving From Yield Products to Real Financial Infrastructure?]”
“My bad, UK-based here. Totally forgot to flag that. Appreciate the heads up. [re: payment processing for a small e-commerce site is killing me, what are you guys using?]”
“Effective rate math plus cross-border fees is the real story, you're spot on. [re: payment processing for a small e-commerce site is killing me, what are you guys using?]”
“I’d be more than happy to use a secure, fraud-safe payment system that does not give me airline miles if it meant everything was cheaper to begin with. Part of the problem with CC companies is they do many things that are tightly coupled and are positioned well to profit on them.”
“On that general note, I think the comparison point to look at for 'state of the art' in the subject would be India's just plain excellent UPI system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Payments_Interface) and all its supporting infrastructure. It's seriously great in a way that's hard to understand for people whose only context is being familiar with Western credit card or bank transfer systems. Nigh instant payment reconciliation, free and extremely convenient for individuals, operational co”
“I am familiar and opened a couple of other markets and following their guidelines.”
“Your largest issues are going to be compliance. This ties into your website domains T&C's, meaning your site is likely to be shutdown, payment processors (the worst) may freeze accounts or ban accounts, European customs are also a pain in the ass. These have been my biggest issues. Happy to connect.”
“Cheaper fees each time, build the cash buffer and leave it alone. Paying an extra percentage to pull cash forward from Stripe or Whop is a quick way to bleed margin on money you already earned. The fix is having 30 days of operating expenses sitting in reserve so payout delays never dictate when suppliers get paid.”
“[PayPal] ★ 1/5 (v10.5.2) — About four years ago, I used PayPal to transfer money to my business partner, as I had done previously without a fee. On one large transfer, PayPal charged roughly 3%—about $900. We contacted PayPal repeatedly and escalated the issue through multiple channels, asking them to reverse the transaction or the fee. They refused. What permanently changed my view of PayPal wasn’t simply that they charged a fee. It was that a service I had trusted for routine transfers resul”
“We're B2BB2C business and we're actually working with all major banks in our country, but through a middle-man which handles all the compliance for us. And this middle-man is the current leader – they can't cut us off (we're giving them access to the market they had no access before), but even if they did – we have other companies already waiting for this scenario. We have a custom deal with the current leader, and after 2 years we can cut them off and go directly (in 2 years we&”
“a sudden jump in volume is one of the usual review triggers, so email them the numbers before you scale meta spend or run a big sale.”
“Been through this exact situation with a client. Two things that matter most: First, don't fully cut over. Run the new processor alongside the old one for a couple of weeks and route a slice of traffic through it. If the new one pulls the same review stunt, you're not dead in the water again. Second, build the compliance folder before you apply anywhere: business registration, six months of processing statements, supplier invoices, and a one-pager on your business model and average ticke”
“For a US LLC, I’d first check what Shopify and your bank specifically require. A virtual business address can help with the business side, and BusinessAnywhere is one option worth checking”
“Sounds like you're on a raw payment API, which means you handle a lot yourself. Most small sellers move to a hosted platform that bundles processing and payouts. Steps: Compare the all-in rate (percentage plus per-transaction fee) of each option on your average order size, since a flat fee hurts more on cheap items. Check payout timing and any holds for new accounts. Most processors let you set a daily or weekly automatic payout to your bank. If you're on Shopify, go to Settings > Pay”
“I am looking for an alternative payment processor that is reliable and does not create unnecessary disruption through lengthy or poorly managed account reviews. I have absolutely nothing against KYC checks, compliance reviews, or requests for additional documentation. I understand that these are a necessary part of payment processing. However, I recently dealt with a European payment processor that handled both our online and retail transactions, and the way their review was conducted caused sig”
“Say your store has a strong sales week, but suppliers need paying before the money reaches your bank. Would you pay more for faster payouts, or keep a bigger cash buffer and stick with cheaper fees? I work with Whop on content and this is a comparison I’d rather hear about than another feature checklist. For people using Stripe, Whop or another payments platform, has payout timing ever mattered enough to change providers? What made the switch worth it? submitted by /u/RectangularRepo”
“Wasn’t as large as that. But more than 20k GBP. It is also worth speaking with Wise. Their published rates are good - but they will sometimes improve these for larger amounts. May be too late for this transfer (if you’ve locked it in), but for future reference.”
“99% probability because it’s cheaper. You have a pool of 1.8 billion people. Even if only 1% meet the criteria that’s still 18 million people”
