AI Enthusiasts Frustrated by Nvidia Pricing
28 posts across 8 communities in the last 30 days; 71% from r/LocalLLaMA.
“thanks, this is useful. agreed the "refuses to value what it can't" line is the trust signal and it's buried mid-post. i'll lead with it next time. nvidia is a good example: every input on that page links to the 10-k line or fred series it came from. In the reverse dcf: right…”
“I don't have a problem waiting for stuff, and I've bought from reputable sellers even in AliExpress, particularly with brands that have their shops there (e.g. Minisforum) But I'm not going to risk buying this kind of hardware when there's a high probability the units are not…”
“I think this is just selection bias, American labs can't do what labs operating in other jurisdictions can without facing serious legal/financial liabilities. Just look what happened to anthropic after they downloaded Books3 and stored it on a dev machine, got slapped with a…”
Users express disappointment and frustration with Nvidia's pricing for AI hardware, particularly LocalLLaMA. Some suggest extreme measures like nationalization to ensure wider access to this technology.
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“Maybe the Russians buy them now in panic since all their data centers got bombed [re: Holy shit what happened to the r9700 ai pro gpu prices after nvidia killed the rtx 5090???]”
“bold of you to assume Nvidia isn't paying them [re: r/nvidia mods delete post about always on MCP server]”
“>But this too shall pass. Waiting for it to pass since 2017 btw. Flagship consumer GPU prices been rising since the crypto mining boom. [re: Will there be a black-friday this year? NVIDIA RTX 5060 Ti 16 GB Surges Up To 144% In Japan, Hitting $1,292 As RTX 5080 Climbs Past $2,400]”
“hopefully it'll be good [re: NVIDIA AI: So many models launching this week! And we have one of our own coming...]”
“My window will have a sign that says "we don't call tech support" with a simplified pic of a v100 on it I know this reads like a shitpost and I'm half joking and half serious Edit: I'd sell these on Etsy if Jensen wouldn't hit me with a C&D submitted by /u/Particular-Award118 [link] [comments]”
“thanks, this is useful. agreed the "refuses to value what it can't" line is the trust signal and it's buried mid-post. i'll lead with it next time. nvidia is a good example: every input on that page links to the 10-k line or fred series it came from. In the reverse dcf: right now it's free on the apple worked example (fully open, no signup) and pro everywhere else. would a free reverse dcf on every ticker have been enough for you to sign up, or would you want to see the”
Hi i'm a broke college student and I want a NVIDIA Agentic AI certification but it's like 100USD and I aint paying that. Can someone DM me with a coupon code or…
“My company bought me a Strix Halo machine with 128Gb of Ram for $1800. It's wild to see how far it's gone up. There has to be price manipulation going on”
“Yeah let’s have the doors conveniently placed right next to some expensive gpu’s its obvi A.I”
“Maybe now vs when you bought it. They're still priced about 2 dgx spark to 1 rtx pro 6000. Great if you'd rather burn time than money, I guess. I've owned both, fwiw.”
“"Okay, lets put the graphics cards right next to the entrance, that should boost sales"”
“No one's opening up random APIs to power grids, banks, or nuclear weapons. It's a complete fantasy to think that AI could even remotely "take over" (other than random DDOS attacks which are facilitated by Anthropic's and OpenAI's infrastructure fwiw).”
“Humanity doesn't have to be in competition with each other. But it is. Hence, as you say, people in America decided it would be cool to send all their engineering and manufacturing wealth to China... only to discover that the Chinese government was quite happy to take all that wealth and keep it. Societies which believe they should give all their wealth away to other societies don't last long. As we're seeing right now.”
“691GB/s is pretty reasonable, should outperform a couple Sparks, but if today's pricing on AI Max 400 is a preview of what's in store a 256GB Medusa Halo might be like $15K. Also need prefill numbers.”
“I don't have a problem waiting for stuff, and I've bought from reputable sellers even in AliExpress, particularly with brands that have their shops there (e.g. Minisforum) But I'm not going to risk buying this kind of hardware when there's a high probability the units are not even in stock.”
“A couple weeks ago, I thought they were selling for 1200. On eBay now, the cheapest "buy it now" seems to be just shy of 1500. It feels like we're in a game of GPU musical chairs now. submitted by /u/sleight42 [link] [comments]”
“Makes sense, cost is your floor. Nothing goes through unless you accept it, so an offer under your GPU cost is just a no. Anything above it is margin you don't get today from the people who leave at 149 And some of what they can offer helps the cost side too, like a yearly commitment you can plan GPU capacity around”
hahaha chinese are copying everything, even the earnings :/
“Think that's true for all AI. It's a business no-one's making any money out of except from Nvidia, from what I understand of the financials.”
“I think this is just selection bias, American labs can't do what labs operating in other jurisdictions can without facing serious legal/financial liabilities. Just look what happened to anthropic after they downloaded Books3 and stored it on a dev machine, got slapped with a billion dollar fine. An open source project operating in the EU or US simply cannot operate in such an environment when the risks are so high.”
“How would you go about crowdfunding it? What would be the goal, considering you already own the hardware? pay for the bills + a little off the top for your time? sadly I don't think it would gain any traction without a proof of concept model to tinker with though.”
“The "shelves global rollout" framing hides the good news: domestic demand is so high they can't spare the chips to sell abroad. That's a supply problem worth having.”
“I've been a long time holder of AMD stock and I was really excited about taalas. It was def a win win seeing AMD buy them up.”
“I'm 1800% up on NVIDIA and 600% up on AMD stock. Prices of hardware from prime suppliers are also through the roof and unstable, affecting the bottom line. Big players know there's money in it and everyone is building AI accelerators, including brands like Ugreen and Anker, you know, cable charger guys. Tough space to get into and win with thin margins.”
“Sure, sounds great... now all they need to do is release it before Nvidia's next generation .”
“Hey everyone, Would like to hear your take on Memory stocks like Micron and Sandisk being cyclical then shouldn’t NVIDIA and AMD fall into the same category? If one believes AI will slow down then both Micron and NVIDIA will be hit? But for one that believes that AI here to stay and in my opinion will increase for years to come Micron and NVIDIA should be the play? Would love to hear your takes! I’m considering buying 70% Micron and 30% Sandisk next week. I like Micron more as its more diversifi”
“People are delusional if they think it will get better. Spoiler alert: It won't! Need for extra compute is raising constantly, and with better ai models it will continue to raise. With enough demand, suppliers like nvidia, amd and others have no incentive to lower their prices, in fact this is their opportunity to raise them even further. Best thing we can hope for is for prices to somewhat stabilize and our income increases (hopes and dreams). With current technology trajectory this is our”
“Well TSMC raises prices by 10%. What you expect AMD to do when buying 10% more expensive?”
“Well TSMC raises prices by 10%. 4th price increase in 18 months. If your supplier raises prices, and you have to pay more, what you do? Go under?”
“It's a lot too soon for AMD to be jacking up prices. Their software (drivers, ROCm, HIP) are just beginning to work, and they have not shown they really are willing to support their hardware for a reasonable amount of time yet. Right now their lower prices can entice some to take a chance, but if that argument disappears there is no point in doing extra work to get around CUDA.”
“The framework was put in place under biden, but the ban on consumer gpu's was put in place under trump.... lmao? ".... Nvidia engineered its H20 to fall squarely within that green zone — avoiding extra export paperwork — and, in response, Chinese companies began optimizing midrange offerings such as the H800 and ramping up their own semiconductor research, fueling Beijing’s push toward domestic self‑sufficiency in AI hardware by 2027. Then in April 2025, the Trump administration slammed”
“Somehow I don't think the most revolutionary technology of our lifetime is comparable to NFTs”
“It's not gooners fucking shit up bro, it's these "trillion" dollar companies sitting with warehouses of unused equipment that keep buying more as it's made.”
“The money you'd save is just getting spent on a expensive motherboard and power bill.”
“they will not come down. gpus are now attached to national security. and more is always better.”
“nah. a year from now you'll see how inefficient the models currently are. I promise whatever quality a 5090 runs now will be running on your phone. (and that 5090 will be pushing AGI)”
“Pretty much none of those uses need nfts or are particularly improved by them though - anything interacting with the physical world especially, because there's always drift between 'what the data says' and 'reality', and nfts, by design, make that a bitch to fix. Like an nft of a house's ownership - in a database, if the owner dies without leaving a will, then that ownership can still be reassigned, or if a scam happens, ownership can be reassigned to the rightful owner.”
I was going to say this. Plenty of use cases for AI. Zero for NATS
Why, does this site want to eventually sell itself to nvidia too? /s
“Cracks are starting to appear. Open Ai and Anthropic are publicly asking for slowdown in AI research. Translation: We see this technology not being any more useful than what it is now, no AGI is coming, and the first one to accept this and slow down the dollar burn rate will incur the wrath of the market. So let's say this big boogey man technology will end all life on earth and we all slow down together. Bonus points if we can lobby for this to be included in the national security bucket. Then”
“For us? It would be the same, maybe worse? We’d just be moving from the petro to the silicon dollar. Except the value would fluctuate rapidly based on the efficiency of the compute models, the supply of hardware, and the electricity capacity to run it. Plus, you won’t ever see any “third world” countries with any chance of independence. Oil is something anyone might find on their land and could theoretically extract. Even if you find silicon, you’re only going to have a handful of companies capa”
“Seems to me this would be one of the main reasons for acquiring it. And they can prevent it adopting support for upcoming Chinese AI chips. If everyone can run locally on cheaper self owned hardware, nvidia have little to offer either consumers or enterprise. The acquisition likely saves them way more than 7b dollars. They have special talent in llama.cpp team, replacing that will be very difficult, and open source AI model vendors don't have much of an interest i replacing it either, their”
“None but if someone were to give you free H100 GPUs you'd pay one. Same with free bitcoin.. so it can actually cross the physicial/digital barrier. The point was that all free things aren't necessarily good for the person receiving them.”
“I hope you're right, bud. I want these bastards punished, and that's even with some of my friends working for them.”
“I have a feeling this is targeted as a "get started in our ecosystem, feel the kind of power real compute can bring" play. This is what corporations buy for devs who then turn around and convince the higher ups that "we actually need 3 aisles of this kind of compute". Even if the big labs were tapped out (they're not), F500 companies are just getting started building out. If you need proof, look at structural steel, copper, and power infrastructure orders for the next 5 y”
“As far as you reasonably can. It's go time. I feel like hardware availability and affordability won't recover and the models get bigger and better... I wish I could snag a few but my days of buying are over. Stuck with what I'm stuck with.”
“Problem is the US cannot leave this model, if they do they will lose economic competitiveness against China for example. Is the same with hardware fabrics you want to do, whos gonna pay $2999 for a US processor instead for a Chi a or Taiwan one that costs $500?”
“And the prices!! No one talks about that gap. At what point having AGI if its 100usd input 200usd output”
“The system is so flooded with monopoly money these people see fit to make jokes with billions of dollars”